The Human Stain 3:10 Mon Feb 29
False memories
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This concept is troubling.
Heard this women, Elizabeth Loftus on the radio a few months back and see it has inspired an art exhibition coming soon. If true and not simply a rare condition, it casts doubt on statements given by adults re childhood memories and relevant to child abuse allegations.
It seems we may be susceptible and suggestible to memories being influenced over time and much of our long term memory may only be memory we selectively edit over the years.
So for example, if there is much hysteria concerning Jimmy Savile, ones own memories of him may be influenced and what we genuinely recall, may not have happened. If this has substance, much of the human experience may be a matter of shifting sands.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_memory
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Rio or Anton or Les
8:56 Mon Feb 29
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memories or did you mean mamories?
Interesting stories about the latter.
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stomper
8:50 Mon Feb 29
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In a prefatory note near the beginning of the History, Thucydides (460 400 BCE) speaks a little of the nature of his task and of his aims. It was difficult, he says, to arrive at the truth of the speeches made—whether he heard them himself or received a report from others—and of the actions of the war. For the latter, even if he himself observed a particular battle, he made as thorough an enquiry as he could—for he realized that eyewitnesses, either from faulty memory or from bias, were not always reliable.
Britannica Online
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1985
7:51 Mon Feb 29
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I have a distant memory of letting go of the helicopter and landing in a passing speedboat which just happened to be carrying a load of terrorists as it sped up the Thames. I recall that, after a brief struggle, I managed to overpower the terrorists and defuse the bomb as the speedboat approached the Houses of Parliament with just 1 second to go.
I think it really happened, but I can't be sure.
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WHOicidal Maniac
5:30 Mon Feb 29
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Osxnhpvg0Is
Interesting
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BRANDED
5:26 Mon Feb 29
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Nurse Ratched 4:34 Mon Feb 29
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You watching me?
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SecondOpinion
5:09 Mon Feb 29
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I've returned to this thread on several occasions. Each time, it was not as I remembered
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Steve Bacons Lenscap
4:49 Mon Feb 29
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Hate it when you have a memory of an old film or telly programme being great because you enjoyed it as a kid. You revisit it years later and it turns out it was actually shit.
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Marston Hammer
4:38 Mon Feb 29
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My first game was in the 80s at home to Coventry. I remember us winning 1-0 thanks to a Gale free-kick. I'll be gutted if it turns out we lost 3-1.
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Nurse Ratched
4:34 Mon Feb 29
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Branded, is there anything you are not an expert on?
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The Human Stain
4:31 Mon Feb 29
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If our brain works like one of those selfie apps that make the ugly kid look gorgeous; i.e. constantly refining and improving the original and smudging out the dodgy bits, then it means even our good memories, in fact especially our good memories, probably didn't happen as we thought...or at all!
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zebthecat
3:55 Mon Feb 29
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The concept may be troubling but our memory isn't all that reliable and is open to manipulation.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/media-spotlight/201211/implanting-false-memories
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Takashi Miike
3:33 Mon Feb 29
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yes, it's a dangerous but convenient concept/theory/invention for the fiddling elite/judiciary
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BRANDED
3:32 Mon Feb 29
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I certainly dont remember anyone fingering my arse thankfully.
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Bungo
3:28 Mon Feb 29
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I always find this troubling from a legal perspective where much weight is put upon what people think they remember about events, even years and years later.
I can't remember shit all me.
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BRANDED
3:24 Mon Feb 29
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I would suggest that the way we interpret memories that are not recorded ( pictures, video, audio) are very very subjective. One that always kills me is a memory of a taste. It so frequently is different from the perceived memory. I think as you gain more experience and therefore more memory this in itself should gave an impact upon old memories. Its not really rocket science.
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The Human Stain
3:19 Mon Feb 29
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meaning what? that you knew all along that our memories were questionable. A subject that it transpires has divided medical and psychoanalytical opinion for decades was obvious from the outset?
Its ok folks, any questions, just ask Branded.
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BRANDED
3:14 Mon Feb 29
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No shit sherlock.
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